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Internal or external marketing?

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For small and average company level, which is marketing stragy they should prefer? Internal or external marketing?

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  • Robert Easson's picture
    Robert Easson
    1317356825

    The answer to your question is "It depends". If we are talking about a company where making $100,000 profit for the year is a big deal, then I guess everything will be internal and strategic direction will come from the business owner or more often the spouse. If the person making marketing decisions is a competent marketer, then there is no issue with this and I agree that strategic direction should come form within.

    However, an entrepreneur is, in most cases not a good marketer, and his / her spouse even worse. Sales and marketing is seen as luxuries and proprietors will hire an accountant before they hire a BDM. WRONG!

    Whats the point of having and accountant when you have no one to buy your goods or services?

    Bad marketing is worse than no marketing because it damages the companie's image. What I see all over the world, not just here in Vietnam, is many smaller businesses refuse to allocate a reasonable budget to marketing because it is not perceived as important.

    Three examples:

    Business Cards:
    They are quite often the only record of a meeting, and yet I see so many people with business cards that look like a 3 year old designed it and then printed it on the cheapest colour printer you can buy. Even worse, the cards are so old that the phone numbers are wrong / outdated. Many cards I see don't have the "8" in front of the new number. What image does this portray to a prospective client?

    Websites:
    I have seen many attempts at English websites that are copy pasted directly from Google Translate! NO! This is a business website. If they cant invest in getting their copy written by someone with good english writing skills, then don't put it up! Again, the contact details must be current. This is a particular issue I have here in Vietnam, so many websites are years old.. (eg: CURRENT NEWS: 1/1/2009 blah blah blah) and the information and details have not been updated since the day it was deployed.

    Email Addresses:
    Unless you work for yahoo, Google or MSN, these email addresses should NEVER appear on a professional business card!

    The cost of running an internal marketing department can be quite substantial if you are doing it right. You not only have to have the staff (design / creative, copywriting, IT support, management), you also have to have the equipment (printers, computers, software, cameras, etc). So from both an opex and capex point of view, this is a costly exercise.

    A good external agency with talented creatives will almost always provide better marketing strategy (you need to separate business strategy from marcomms here) than internal. The reason being, a good marketing agency employs good talent who achieve results.

    However Vietnamese business psyche is still not at the point where marketing is as essential as accounting. It's getting there though. When we get there, we will find that outsourcing things like marketing, event planning and cloud computing are a far better solution than having huge internal departments.

    A good corporate marketing department should consist of the following:
    1x Marketing Manager (ensures everything is on track, provides strategic direction)
    1x Personal Assistant
    1x Creative (“just-in-time”work and ensuring that the creative output from the external agency conforms with corporate branding guidelines)

    This allows the company to have minimal capex and still have top notch marketing.
    The trend internationally is for corporates to downsize their Marketing Departments and outsource most of the work.

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  • Thanks Hoa Dang Ngoc and Andrew Dang for your valued experience sharing. I gree with you that In and External marketing are so important to every company. Howerver, I prefer Internal marketing firstly. I worked for some Co. Ltd before, they always had ONLY plan for external marketing to customers. Actually, many customers knew their products but their staffs did not have deep/united understand about their products. Even staffs did not believe, happy and confidence to sale their products.

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  • In my opinion, any company have to do both of the internal and external marketing. Internal Marketing is the best practice for external marketing success. The success should come from inside out :D
    Internal marketing motivates and empowers employees at all management levels to deliver a satisfying customer experience.

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  • T Tan's picture
    T Tan
    1312346268

    Interesting question, Trung! if your prefer your question to Vietnamese Family companies, then I think you already had an answer, which is neither Internal or External marketing especially "small and average company level". Right? :)
    However, since you asked, here are my thoughts.

    Consider this, companies that have highly evolved product and service development practices understand the importance of empathizing with customers, and that different customers respond to different messages. Thus, it is clear that we need different messages for different audiences, so that’s not the issue. The issue is how to create messages that are complimentary and compatible. It’s not about hiring a copywriter to craft a perfect compromise of a tag-line …. though you’ll need that too. This is where a good marketer cones in. How do marketers create external messages that are authentic, and appropriate, but which also consider and respect the culture of those we are engaging with?

    In some ways, I wonder if it’s easiest to think of the externally facing messages as being more introductory, and the internal messages as being more meaningful and deep. When you meet someone new, you don’t start with the philosophy you bring to your work, you just introduce them to what you do and hopefully what makes you uniquely interesting. Ideally, what you start with foreshadows what is to come. In the end, I don’t see any downside to sharing the internal perspective once you’ve got a real relationship going. If that’s the case, then marketers can focus on opening those windows between silos, facilitating the articulation of the company identity, creating complimentary messages, and fostering alignment

    So, as Hoa Dang Ngoc has indicated, for a successful launch of new products and services, both Internal and External marketing have to be done and executed in timely order, from inside out.

    Uhm, did I answer your question? :)

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  • Robin Nguyen's picture
    Robin Nguyen
    1313146619

    both

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  • Pascal Ho Ba Dam's picture

    NO INTERNAL, NO EXTERNAL: GUERRILLA MARKETING

    To be frank, I may be a basic person but the existence of Marketing is to satisfy the client. Unless the client is our employees (which business model exist, like catalogs of products selling to teachers in the Ministry of Education -France-), Marketing can only be External with the unique target to get more clients.
    Now small and medium companies should only do Guerrilla Marketing -read Jay Conrad Levinson bible for effective Marketing.

    When you work for big companies you learn how to use best (and fast) a Marketing budget. The measurement of performance for 1$ invested how much you get is left to financial accounting and year end results (of course I am exagerating, but look at how many companies have a website that cost them time and effort from a marketer and It programmers and machines for ???$ sales?

    Start measuring the results in profit -you need financial analytical skills- for each marketing action, then you will know exactly which "marketing weapon" to keep and which one to stop/cancel/terminate.

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  • Buidacduong SIR's picture
    Buidacduong SIR
    1317346743

    1 công ty tốt thì cần phải chú trọng cả tiếp thị bên trong lẫn bên ngoài, sản phẩm , dịch vụ sẽ thật sự thuyết phục được khách hàng nếu nó thuyết phục được mọi thành viên trong tổ chức tin tưởng, trải nghiệm và truyền niềm tin về công ty, sản phẩm, dịch vụ ra bên ngoài!

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